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【新唐人2011年3月25日讯】西方联军继续向利比亚的军事目标发动空袭，使亲卡扎菲的军事力量大大削弱。利比亚局势同时牵动中国大陆，甚至在互联网上出现了一个争议很大的话题：「人权」和「主权」到底哪个更重要？
对西方联军在利比亚的军事干预行动，中共官方媒体仍然指责西方国家：故意把人权和主权对立起来；而打击利比亚是为了石油等等。
在民间网路论坛中，也呈现：「民族主义」倾向和「自由主义」倾向两种力量的对峙。
一些观点认为，国家成立的目地就在于保护国民的「人权」等利益，一旦国家不想或不能再保护本国民众人权，则国家失去存在的意义，所以为保护利比亚平民生命安全，联合国有权采取一切必要手段。
「反腐义勇军」张建中：「当人民被践踏了人权，只有在国际社会干预的情况下，才有可能好转，假如国际社会不干预，它的人民会怎么样？更加水深火热。」
对于西方联军出兵，不少网民表示认同。而另外一些观点则认为，「主权」高于一切，「主权」是人权的保障，一些「民族主义」倾向严重的网民，对这项军事干预认为是：「新八国联军侵犯利比亚主权」。
四川维权人士普先生则认为：没有人权的国家当然不配享有主权。
普先生：「任何一个政府他被人民革命推翻也好，或是被军事政变推翻也好，他被推翻的先决要素是从它不尊重人权，而触怒绝大多数人的意愿，和激怒绝大多数人开始的，所以没有人权的国度，肯定就不会有主权。」
普先生认为，主权在民，只要民族和领土存在，主权就在，而「政权」是可以更迭的。
普先生：「应该说多国联军对利比亚的打击是在完成「政权」更迭、「政权」交替，多国联军并没有把利比亚纳入法国、英国或美国版图的任何打算。」
他表示，中共喉舌说多国联军侵犯利比亚主权，是不正确的。中国的教育使人民对「主权、政权」概念不清，甚至有人公开否定人权的最高地位。
对此，北京作家、资深媒体人凌沧洲认为，「民族主义」的声音之所以更强劲，并不是得益于他们的观点本身更有说服力，或者是帖子的传播率更高，而是得益于上面那个「裁判」的意愿。据《德国之声》透露，凌沧洲在博客上发表了一篇欢呼赞叹对利比亚军事干预的文章，但这篇文章很快就遭到了「裁判」的删除。
广州天河网友也表示：没有人权的主权一文不值，没有人权的主权是虚假的主权，没有人权的主权是反人类的主权，没有人权的主权造就的稳定是虚假的稳定，没有人权的主权违背自然规律！
新唐人记者常春、宋风、周天采访报导。
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Human Rights and Sovereignty
Western Allies continual air strikes on military targets in Libya greatly reduce Gaddafi's military force. Libya's situation influences China too, by evoking a debate on the internet: which is more important human rights or sovereignty?
Chinese official media is still criticizing the military intervention by the Western world in Libya. It intentionally set human rights against sovereignty, claiming the reason for Libya's attack is petroleum. Netizens also hold two opposing stands, nationalism and liberalism.
The purpose of establishing a country is to protect people's human and other rights. If the country could not fulfill this function, it loses the purpose of existence as a country. Therefore in order to protect the safety of the people in Libya, UN has the responsibility to take appropriate actions.
Mr. Zhang Jianzhong, an anticorruption volunteer, said that when people's human rights are trampled, only international intervention can help. Otherwise the people will only suffer more misery.
As for the military intervention by the Western Allies, many netizens support it. There are some, however, who think sovereignty is above all, and it is part of the human rights too. Netizens exhibiting strong inclination to nationalism, call the military actions “New 8-Nation Alliance” invasion to Libya.
Rights activist Mr. Pu, from Sichuan Province, said that a country without human rights deserves no sovereignty.
Mr. Pu: "The precondition of a government being overthrown by people's revolution or coup d'état is its disrespect to human rights, opposition of majority's wishes, and infuriation of the masses. Therefore, a country without human rights would inevitably not have sovereignty."
Mr. Pu adds, that sovereignty is in people's hearts; as long as nationality and land exist, sovereignty exists too, but a regime could be replaced.
Mr. Pu: "Western Allies struck Libya to finish off the change of the regime. They do not have the intention to give Libya to France, England or USA."
He said, it is incorrect for China's mouthpieces to claim that Western Allies invade Libya. China's education confuses people's conception on sovereignty and regimes, with some even publicly denying the supremacy of human rights.
Ling Cangzhou, Beijing's writer and senior journalist,said, that the reason why nationalism sounds more powerful is not because it is more convincing, or because of its higher postings' rate, but because of the “judge”s willingness. Deutsche Welle, said that Ling published a blog article praising Libya's military intervention, but it was soon deleted by the "judge.".
Guangzhou's Netizen, Tianhe said, that sovereignty without human rights has no meaning, and it is fake and anti-humane. The stability created by depriving people's human rights is a false stability, which violates nature's order.
NTD reporters Chang Chun, Song Feng and Zhou Tian.
From: http://www.ntdtv.com/xtr/gb/2011/03/25/atext510030.html
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